1 00:00:00,685 --> 00:00:06,685 Around the world, military pilots have reportedly seen UFOs. 2 00:00:07,685 --> 00:00:13,685 In some cases, the pilots have actually engaged them in air-to-air combat. 3 00:00:14,685 --> 00:00:18,685 Now, two military pilots have come forward. 4 00:00:19,685 --> 00:00:23,685 If it comes closer than four or five months, I'm going to jump out. 5 00:00:24,685 --> 00:00:28,685 He was expecting the object to explode, but it didn't happen. 6 00:00:28,685 --> 00:00:33,685 To actually engage a UFO for a period of 20 minutes, that's something extraordinary. 7 00:00:35,685 --> 00:00:45,685 In 1976, reports of an unknown object over Tehran sends an F-4 scrambling to confront and destroy it. 8 00:00:45,685 --> 00:00:48,685 It jumped from here to here, just like that. 9 00:00:49,685 --> 00:00:57,685 In 1980, a Peruvian fighter jet opens fire on an unknown object trespassing in military airspace. 10 00:00:58,685 --> 00:01:02,685 A commander gave him the order to take off and destroy the object. 11 00:01:03,685 --> 00:01:09,685 Do these UFOs execute maneuvers and capabilities that rule out terrestrial craft? 12 00:01:10,685 --> 00:01:13,685 Camera guy's Puka trying to do his business in the bag. 13 00:01:13,685 --> 00:01:22,685 The team, along with former military pilots, put two of the world's best UFO dogfight cases to the test, high above the Pacific. 14 00:01:23,685 --> 00:01:25,685 That's certainly no aircraft ever seen. 15 00:01:25,685 --> 00:01:31,685 This is case number 76102 UFO Dogfights. 16 00:01:33,685 --> 00:01:35,685 UFOs always got a chance. 17 00:01:36,685 --> 00:01:59,684 Dogfight is a term that really came out of World War I, World War II era. 18 00:01:59,684 --> 00:02:09,684 An important element of what I would consider a real dogfight is that both parties are trying to shoot down, kill the other one. 19 00:02:10,684 --> 00:02:18,684 When I hear that some of our best pilots, some of our best fighters have had a dogfight with a UFO, I say, I'm not exactly sure. 20 00:02:19,684 --> 00:02:27,684 I'm Bill Scott, former flight test engineer. I tested aircraft between 1974 and 1987. 21 00:02:28,684 --> 00:02:42,684 On February 21, 2008, the team was invited to March Air Force Base in Riverside, California to continue their investigations into reported dogfights between military aircraft and UFOs. 22 00:02:43,684 --> 00:02:46,684 They have uncovered some shocking new evidence. 23 00:02:47,684 --> 00:02:55,684 We're going to be talking about some of the most credible, phenomenal evidence in all of ufology, military dogfights with UFOs. 24 00:02:55,684 --> 00:03:01,684 We're going to be meeting with the pilot who actually engaged a UFO over Peru. 25 00:03:02,684 --> 00:03:11,684 And we're going to be talking about a case of Parviz Jufari who actually engaged the UFO over Iran, over Tehran in 1976. 26 00:03:12,684 --> 00:03:13,684 So these are two cases we're really excited about. 27 00:03:14,684 --> 00:03:17,684 This is all testimony based or do we have actual physical or hard evidence? 28 00:03:18,684 --> 00:03:20,684 I understand there are official government documents involved. 29 00:03:21,684 --> 00:03:23,684 If we have hard evidence, I'm very curious to take away. 30 00:03:23,684 --> 00:03:25,684 Get set to get your world rock. Let's go. 31 00:03:26,684 --> 00:03:27,684 All right. 32 00:03:32,684 --> 00:03:40,684 One of the most incredible stories you'll ever hear is the story of Parviz Jufari from the Iranian Air Force. 33 00:03:41,684 --> 00:03:46,684 It is approximately 11 p.m. on September 18, 1976. 34 00:03:47,684 --> 00:03:52,684 Citizens of Tehran, Iran are frightened by a large lighted orb circling above them. 35 00:03:53,684 --> 00:04:00,684 These are not the standard helicopters, military jets and civilian aircraft which frequent the Iranian skies. 36 00:04:01,684 --> 00:04:05,684 At this time, Iran is a major U.S. ally in the Middle East. 37 00:04:06,684 --> 00:04:11,684 This is still three years away from the Islamic Revolution and the Ayatollah Khomeini's rise to power. 38 00:04:11,684 --> 00:04:22,684 Because Iran shares a border with the Soviet Union, the U.S. military provided training and state-of-the-art F-4 Phantom fighters to the Iranian Air Force. 39 00:04:23,684 --> 00:04:25,684 The F-4E was what was used in the Jufari case. 40 00:04:26,684 --> 00:04:32,684 At that particular time, it was probably one of the best jets that could go out to do aerial engagements. 41 00:04:33,684 --> 00:04:41,684 Shown for the first time on American television, the following are scenes from an Iranian TV movie about this UFO encounter. 42 00:04:42,684 --> 00:04:51,684 It starred some of the actual military personnel involved in this event, including Parviz Jufari, and used the actual control tower transcripts. 43 00:04:52,684 --> 00:05:05,684 Numerous UFO reports continue to come into the control tower at Maribat Airport. These are not military or commercial aircraft. 44 00:05:06,684 --> 00:05:17,683 Hussein Pruhuzi is in charge of the air traffic control tower. He has heard enough and notifies the Iranian Air Force. 45 00:05:21,683 --> 00:05:33,683 At 11.31 p.m., they scramble an F-4 from Sharoki Air Base, located in Hamadon, 175 miles southwest of Tehran. 46 00:05:34,683 --> 00:05:39,683 The first pilot, Captain Aziz Khani, takes off to investigate the object. 47 00:05:40,683 --> 00:05:47,683 Ten minutes later, the base orders another F-4 to be scrambled, this one piloted by Parviz Jufari. 48 00:05:47,683 --> 00:05:57,683 Jufari was a major at that time, and he was vectored to intercept a strange light that was over Tehran. 49 00:05:58,683 --> 00:06:03,683 I'm Parviz Jufari, retired general from Iranian Air Force. 50 00:06:04,683 --> 00:06:09,683 Jufari estimates the object is as large as a Boeing 707 jet. 51 00:06:10,683 --> 00:06:18,683 I'll befall the light towards the Russian border when suddenly an object broke off from the light and headed towards Jufari's own plane. 52 00:06:24,683 --> 00:06:37,683 I turned toward it, and put it on my 12 o'clock. I got close to it, and you can't imagine all of a sudden it jumped from here to here, just like that. 53 00:06:39,683 --> 00:06:47,683 Based on his location, Jufari estimates the object has traveled almost 28 miles to his right in the blink of an eye. 54 00:06:48,683 --> 00:06:53,683 This movement was well beyond the capabilities of any man-made object. 55 00:06:54,683 --> 00:07:01,683 I asked the tower if they had any flight, they said no, they don't have any flight overhead. 56 00:07:02,683 --> 00:07:08,683 As Jufari continues his approach toward the object, he witnesses something incredible. 57 00:07:09,683 --> 00:07:13,683 Something like a moon came out of it. 58 00:07:14,683 --> 00:07:17,683 A second object came out of the first object. 59 00:07:17,683 --> 00:07:21,683 Another object below the horizon and started flying toward me. 60 00:07:22,683 --> 00:07:30,683 This second orb-like object descends from beneath the triangular lights and races toward Jufari's F-4. 61 00:07:31,683 --> 00:07:41,683 Although Jufari is traveling at supersonic speed, this incoming craft streaks by his jet and circles him, as if he's standing still. 62 00:07:42,683 --> 00:07:51,683 Now imagine I'm flying to a speed of close-up sound and something making circling around me. 63 00:07:52,683 --> 00:08:02,683 After circling Jufari's aircraft, the second orb now returns to the larger diamond-shaped craft, still hovering approximately 25 miles in the distance. 64 00:08:03,683 --> 00:08:15,683 For a moment, Jufari thinks he is out of danger, but to his astonishment, another orb has descended and is streaking directly toward his jet for the second time. 65 00:08:17,683 --> 00:08:20,683 Jufari now realizes he is under attack. 66 00:08:21,683 --> 00:08:26,683 He reaches for his instrument panel to arm and fire an A-9 heat-seeking missile. 67 00:08:27,683 --> 00:08:29,683 But what happens next shocks him. 68 00:08:29,683 --> 00:08:33,683 Green and red light should be both on so I could fire. 69 00:08:34,683 --> 00:08:40,682 When I looked back on the left side of the instrument panel, the vent panel was out and no light on it. 70 00:08:42,682 --> 00:08:50,682 Jufari believes that in the heat of combat with his UFO, it sent a massive pulse of electromagnetic energy toward his plane, 71 00:08:50,682 --> 00:08:59,682 temporarily disabling all of the onboard electronics, including the navigation equipment, avionics and weapons systems. 72 00:09:01,682 --> 00:09:09,682 With a disabled missile system and no way to defend against this unknown object, Jufari considers ditching his plane. 73 00:09:10,682 --> 00:09:15,682 I thought, if you come closer than four or five miles, I'm going to jump out. 74 00:09:15,682 --> 00:09:23,682 But before Jufari has to make that fateful decision, the object reverses direction and once again returns to the larger crack. 75 00:09:24,682 --> 00:09:33,682 When it moved away from me, I could see the main object dead and went right underneath it and disappeared. 76 00:09:34,682 --> 00:09:40,682 Having just endured a harrowing engagement with multiple UFOs over the dark skies north of Tehran, 77 00:09:41,682 --> 00:09:47,682 Major Jufari decides it is no longer safe to continue tracking this mysterious diamond shaped object. 78 00:09:48,682 --> 00:09:57,682 He is granted permission to return to Tehran, but as he descends, he realizes a second chapter of his encounter is about to unfold. 79 00:09:58,682 --> 00:10:04,682 When I was on descent, again another of these strong shapes was chasing me. 80 00:10:05,682 --> 00:10:12,682 As Jufari descends for his approach to Maribot Airport, he sees another small object chasing from behind. 81 00:10:13,682 --> 00:10:19,682 On his final approach, he looks over his shoulder and witnesses the object descending toward the desert floor. 82 00:10:20,682 --> 00:10:25,682 I could see all of the sands on the ground. It was so bright, so bright. 83 00:10:26,682 --> 00:10:33,682 Jufari is diverted from landing and is ordered to identify the object that has appeared to touch down near the air base. 84 00:10:34,682 --> 00:10:43,682 According to both military and civilian eyewitnesses, the object is believed to have crash landed just outside of Shemaran, Iran. 85 00:10:44,682 --> 00:10:53,682 In a very fast speed toward the ground which I thought I will see a very, very big explosion, but it didn't happen. 86 00:10:53,682 --> 00:10:58,682 The object came right underground and stopped there. 87 00:10:59,682 --> 00:11:06,682 Upon landing at Maribot Airport, Parviz Jufari knew he would have to soon debrief his commanders about the night's events. 88 00:11:07,682 --> 00:11:12,682 What he didn't realize is that the Iranian military weren't the only ones interested in his encounter. 89 00:11:13,682 --> 00:11:19,682 One of the American colonel was listening to me, writing, taking notes. 90 00:11:20,682 --> 00:11:25,682 How deeply was the CIA involved in this case and its cover-up? 91 00:11:26,682 --> 00:11:33,682 When Jufari landed, there were American CIA agents and an Air Force colonel waiting for him to debrief him. 92 00:11:34,682 --> 00:11:40,682 Seen on television for the first time ever, the unclassified official military report. 93 00:11:41,682 --> 00:11:48,682 Why did this document go all the way to the White House and what was found the next day at the crash site? 94 00:11:50,682 --> 00:12:01,682 Over Iran in 1976, Major Parviz Jufari has a harrowing dogfight encounter with what he thinks is a UFO. 95 00:12:02,682 --> 00:12:07,681 Upon landing, he was debriefed by high-ranking Iranian military officials. 96 00:12:08,681 --> 00:12:11,681 There was also an American CIA agent present. 97 00:12:11,681 --> 00:12:23,681 The agent filed a report which is now unclassified that was distributed to the CIA, the Air Force, the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, and the White House. 98 00:12:24,681 --> 00:12:28,681 It was titled, quote, Iran reported UFO sighting. 99 00:12:29,681 --> 00:12:36,681 According to the report, a UFO was seen about 11 p.m. on September 18, 1976. 100 00:12:37,681 --> 00:12:50,681 Besides Jufari's sighting, the control tower received, quote, four telephone calls from citizens living in the Shemaran area of Tehran, saying they had seen strange objects in the sky. 101 00:12:51,681 --> 00:12:59,681 Some reported a bird-like object, while others reported a helicopter. There were no helicopters airborne at that time. 102 00:13:00,681 --> 00:13:15,681 The report details and confirms Jufari's sighting, including the loss of his avionics, quote, as the F-4 approached a range of 25 nautical miles, he lost all instrumentation and communications. 103 00:13:16,681 --> 00:13:28,681 The report further confirms that two objects were seen, one as big as, quote, a 707 tanker, and again, quote, the second object headed straight toward the F-4. 104 00:13:29,681 --> 00:13:40,681 At a very fast rate of speed, and then, quote, the pilot attempted to fire an AIM-9 missile at the object, but at that instant, his weapons control panel went off. 105 00:13:41,681 --> 00:13:47,681 And then, quote, initiated a turn and negative G-dive to get away. 106 00:13:48,681 --> 00:14:03,681 In a very curious ending to this event, the Department of Defense report says that the next day, the crew was taken by helicopter to an area where the object was seen to crash land by local residents. 107 00:14:04,681 --> 00:14:10,681 According to the report, the landing area is, quote, being checked for possible radiation. 108 00:14:11,681 --> 00:14:16,681 Further information about this case either never came or remains classified. 109 00:14:17,681 --> 00:14:21,681 I saw it, so I have to believe it. 110 00:14:24,681 --> 00:14:34,681 Impressed with Jufari's story and the detailed Department of Defense report, the team wants to dissect and test the three most critical elements of this case. 111 00:14:34,681 --> 00:14:40,681 First, the object appears to jump over 25 miles in an instant. 112 00:14:41,681 --> 00:14:48,681 Second, the object appears to release an orb that approaches Jufari at a speed faster than anything man made. 113 00:14:49,681 --> 00:14:58,681 And third, what would it take to shut down all of the electronics on one of the world's most advanced fighter jets at the time, the F-4E Phantom? 114 00:14:59,681 --> 00:15:14,681 The team, along with their flight consultant, former Air Force Flight Test Engineer Bill Scott, feel the very best way to test and understand this event is through a practical demonstration using actual fighter planes. 115 00:15:15,681 --> 00:15:23,681 The team is at Air Combat USA in Orange County, California, the top aerial dogfight group in America. 116 00:15:23,681 --> 00:15:29,681 Their staff is made up of former military pilots with years of military flight experience. 117 00:15:30,681 --> 00:15:32,681 My name is Ben Clarks, XUS Air Force. 118 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,680 I'm Michael Fompingo, of course I'm Baron, and I was a captain in the German Air Force. 119 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:48,680 You're flying the C.I. Marchetti SF-260. It's an Italian light attack aircraft capable of dropping bombs, shooting rockets and machine gun fire. 120 00:15:49,680 --> 00:16:00,680 The aircraft is rated at plus six, minus three Gs, goes about 270 miles per hour, and it flies just like a light attack fighter. It's the real deal. 121 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:18,680 The pilots, along with Bill Scott, have calculated that recreating this event at 25% scale would give the best results with this airplane, meaning they will fly at 25% of the speed and cover 25% of the distance. 122 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:32,680 We chose to use regular airplanes to try to duplicate some of these engagements, because I think it really brings home to people the kind of dynamics involved in some of these engagements. 123 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:42,680 Yes, we're using different types of aircraft. There are a lot of things we could not do with the Machis, but it's very illustrative, I think. 124 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:54,680 Today we want to recreate the events. We want to go out with two airplanes, and one of us will simulate the unadulterated flying object. 125 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:00,680 We don't want to get within 500 feet. That's our safety distance. In case of an emergency, we will have parachutes. 126 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:06,680 We'll say, bailout, bailout, bailout. That's our commander. We all are jetters in the canopy. Okay, let's go fly. 127 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:08,680 Alright. 128 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,680 We're going to take off. 129 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,680 We're going to take off. Good afternoon. Command 1, flight of 3, we're going to go back to the combat area, ready to taxi. 130 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:39,680 The pilots estimate it will take 13 minutes to reach the FAA designated dogfight zone, high over the Pacific Ocean, between Long Beach and Catalina Island. 131 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,680 The dogfight begins. 132 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:54,680 The team is demonstrating the first key element of this case, that the UFO moved miles in an instant. 133 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:01,680 Ted and Baron, as the UFO, make a very fast and exaggerated turn at maximum speed. 134 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,680 It jumped from here to here, just like that. 135 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:11,680 Bill Scott and Joker attempt to follow from a slow and gliding start. 136 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,680 Roger, on this one we've got to simulate a right turn, trying to track the target. 137 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:23,680 And this is simulating the target jumping 10 degrees in a very short amount of time. 138 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:26,680 There are another leak. 139 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,680 Alright, Bill, looks like we've got target acquisition about 9.30, 10 o'clock. 140 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:41,680 Well, all of a sudden he jumped over to 10.30 in the space of about a split second. 141 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,680 Yeah, like 10 degrees jumps in a time, it looks like. 142 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,680 Alright, now he's over there at about 11 o'clock. 143 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:55,680 We're in the right turn trying to track him here, every time he gets close enough, he jumps out about another 10 degrees. 144 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,680 At about 25 miles up, that's about a 3 mile change every second or so. 145 00:19:00,679 --> 00:19:01,679 Yeah, that's pretty dramatic. 146 00:19:01,679 --> 00:19:07,679 It's just instantaneous acceleration, it's just a split second and he's another 10 degrees over there. 147 00:19:08,679 --> 00:19:09,679 Now he's at about 11 o'clock. 148 00:19:10,679 --> 00:19:18,679 Even at this reduced scale, the movements Ted and Barron's plane execute, makes it nearly impossible for Joker and Bill to follow. 149 00:19:19,679 --> 00:19:24,679 Imagine this scenario, when both craft are traveling at over 1,000 miles per hour. 150 00:19:25,679 --> 00:19:27,679 That's certainly no aircraft ever seen. 151 00:19:28,679 --> 00:19:37,679 The team's second simulation will demonstrate the incredible speed at which the secondary object was moving, as it raced directly at Jaffari's F-4 Phantom. 152 00:19:38,679 --> 00:19:45,679 Although the single-engine Marquetti aircraft being flown today are nowhere near the F-4 Phantom's capabilities, 153 00:19:46,679 --> 00:19:56,679 they will be able to demonstrate the sense of speed and closure rate that Jaffari experienced as the secondary UFO approached and circled his supersonic fighter. 154 00:19:57,679 --> 00:20:00,679 Check about 90 right then Barron will set up another pass. 155 00:20:01,679 --> 00:20:02,679 Yeah, Barron is coming in. 156 00:20:03,679 --> 00:20:04,679 Roger. 157 00:20:06,679 --> 00:20:08,679 Got a whole lot of margin for error there. 158 00:20:09,679 --> 00:20:18,679 This is what it looks like when two objects, both traveling at 160 miles per hour, pass in opposite directions at a distance of 50 feet. 159 00:20:19,679 --> 00:20:20,679 It is just a blur. 160 00:20:21,679 --> 00:20:32,679 Now imagine this scenario at night, and both Jaffari and the UFO are traveling toward each other at a combined speed of over 2,000 miles per hour. 161 00:20:34,679 --> 00:20:39,679 The team repeats this maneuver, this time even faster and even closer. 162 00:20:51,679 --> 00:20:59,679 The day after the event, September 19, 1976, the crash site was reportedly searched and tested for radiation. 163 00:21:00,679 --> 00:21:04,679 But according to Jaffari, nothing was found, despite the numerous reports. 164 00:21:06,679 --> 00:21:07,679 Okay, let's go. 165 00:21:07,679 --> 00:21:23,679 So what was the experience? Here you are, you are combining each other at 160 miles an hour? 166 00:21:24,679 --> 00:21:28,679 Yeah, about 130 knots, and they were doing about 130 knots closing, that's about 320. 167 00:21:29,679 --> 00:21:30,679 It happens in a blink of an eye. 168 00:21:30,679 --> 00:21:39,679 You know, they're a tiny black speck way off in the distance, and a few seconds later they're blowing right by you, 300 plus miles an hour. 169 00:21:41,679 --> 00:21:50,679 He's flying that way, and suddenly when he goes to take a defensive position, because the object makes a hostile move towards him, his missile panel locks up. 170 00:21:51,679 --> 00:21:56,679 Well, first of all, it's a pilot. If your intra-panel goes down, you are in deep shit. 171 00:21:56,679 --> 00:22:01,679 There's no way it's meant to happen. These systems are built, they've evolved, they're the most robust engineering that we have. 172 00:22:02,679 --> 00:22:09,679 You know, there's equipment that's used for war, it's got to be incredibly robust, it's got to last up through, you know, bullets going through it. 173 00:22:10,679 --> 00:22:17,679 To have your entire panel go down is stunning, and it's not just the pneumatic system, it's not just the electrical system, it was all the systems. 174 00:22:18,679 --> 00:22:21,679 And like, I can't even imagine an explanation for how that would happen physically. 175 00:22:26,679 --> 00:22:37,678 The biggest mystery of this case remains. It's a fact that Jaffari lost all instrumentation and use of his weapons systems through some electrical anomaly. 176 00:22:38,678 --> 00:22:42,678 So there was something affecting the comm panel and the missile system, we know for sure. 177 00:22:43,678 --> 00:22:49,678 Was this caused by the UFO? The team puts Jaffari's key theory to the test. 178 00:22:57,678 --> 00:23:08,678 In the Iranian case, when the F-4 ran out there, the pilot, I'm sure, was very confident he had one of the top fighters of the world, go check it out. 179 00:23:09,678 --> 00:23:14,678 And then when something came at him very quickly, you know, he immediately saw it as a threat. 180 00:23:15,678 --> 00:23:22,678 So he, you know, armed an AIM-9 missile, master armed, went to fire, everything locked up on him. 181 00:23:23,678 --> 00:23:31,678 The team heads to experiments producer John Tindall's lab to participate in an EMP demonstration. 182 00:23:32,678 --> 00:23:46,678 Tindall's going to show us what might have happened to the AIM-9 weapons panel on Jaffari's F-4 Phantom jet when he tried to lock his missile on to defend himself against what he believed to be an attack by a UFO. 183 00:23:47,678 --> 00:23:56,678 My demonstration today is basically to recreate an EMP event such as that might have been experienced in the certain Iranian case that we're investigating. 184 00:23:57,678 --> 00:24:04,678 This UFO seemed to fire some sort of a pulse at the fighter jet and it knocked out a lot of the electronics. 185 00:24:06,678 --> 00:24:11,678 So basically I have an EMP generator, we're going to kind of investigate what was going on in the Iranian case. 186 00:24:11,678 --> 00:24:18,678 His instrumentation all went down, weapons locked, and somehow this thing was able to basically control his airplane and prevent him from firing. 187 00:24:19,678 --> 00:24:29,678 What we have here is basically a modified test of the coil and what that means is we're going to take a house current at 110 volts, take it up to 15,000 volts. 188 00:24:29,678 --> 00:24:37,678 The charge is building up within the capacitors until it reaches a threshold and then bam, it is going into this coil and inducing current up into this coil. 189 00:24:38,678 --> 00:24:51,678 If the test is successful, John will be able to knock out a standard consumer computer without fully disabling it, illustrating that a similar event could happen on a much larger scale. 190 00:24:52,678 --> 00:24:59,678 One of the things about onboard computers and fly by wire airplanes is that they usually have a built-in protection, which is the airframe itself. 191 00:24:59,678 --> 00:25:09,678 We're going to set up a flight simulator here and show how the effects of this EMP burst will disrupt flight computers or any kind of computer for that matter. 192 00:25:09,678 --> 00:25:12,678 Whoa, all right, level it off baby. 193 00:25:14,678 --> 00:25:15,678 Bring the music in. 194 00:25:16,678 --> 00:25:22,678 So we can say at this point we're like about to say at the 25 mile point, I think you want to come over next to me. 195 00:25:22,678 --> 00:25:23,678 Okay. 196 00:25:23,678 --> 00:25:24,678 Lights. 197 00:25:24,678 --> 00:25:25,678 All right. 198 00:25:25,678 --> 00:25:26,678 Are you ready? 199 00:25:26,678 --> 00:25:29,678 In three, two, one. 200 00:25:37,678 --> 00:25:43,678 15,000 volts of low amperage power was able to shut down the computer. 201 00:25:43,678 --> 00:25:48,678 But will it turn back on after such a dramatic EMP event? 202 00:25:48,678 --> 00:25:49,678 Okay, we're disarmed. 203 00:25:49,678 --> 00:25:51,678 Jeff, see if you can reboot the computer. 204 00:25:51,678 --> 00:25:53,678 Here's the attempt. 205 00:25:53,678 --> 00:25:57,677 Hey, wow. 206 00:25:57,677 --> 00:26:00,677 John, you're getting some computer operation there. 207 00:26:00,677 --> 00:26:01,677 Yep, it came back. 208 00:26:01,677 --> 00:26:03,677 CPU did not die. 209 00:26:05,677 --> 00:26:11,677 Like Jeff Farry's electronics, the computer returns to normal at the end of the pulse. 210 00:26:12,677 --> 00:26:22,677 John, you've demonstrated that you're able to render a panel on that computer inoperative in much the same way that an electron beam or whatever beam that UFO fired will be. 211 00:26:23,677 --> 00:26:27,677 You've rendered Jeff Farry's controls inoperable on that night in 1976. 212 00:26:27,677 --> 00:26:36,677 If we're talking about an extraterrestrial civilization visiting us, they may have technology that's far superior to what we have in the lab today. 213 00:26:36,677 --> 00:26:40,677 So even though this was a success, the scale is the big surprise. 214 00:26:40,677 --> 00:26:50,677 Because to get these results, you know, from something 36 inches away at 25 miles away is just an unbelievable amount of power. 215 00:26:50,677 --> 00:26:56,677 And especially since it's actually has to penetrate a metal cage, a metal airframe, to do its damage. 216 00:26:59,677 --> 00:27:07,677 Although Jeff Farry's encounter was witnessed by many, and he claimed the Iranian military is interested in the UFO phenomenon, 217 00:27:07,677 --> 00:27:14,677 just three years later, the Iranian Revolution created a closed and secret society within Iran. 218 00:27:14,677 --> 00:27:18,677 Reports of UFOs were no longer coming to the West. 219 00:27:19,677 --> 00:27:33,677 I haven't seen anything like this before, and what I think and what I believe and everybody else believe that that was an unknown foreign object, a UFO. 220 00:27:35,677 --> 00:27:46,677 After putting the three main components of Jeff Farry's case to the test, the team doubts that a man-made flying object could mimic the movements that Jeff Farry saw that night. 221 00:27:46,677 --> 00:27:56,677 And while the sudden loss of the F-4's computer system can be explained by the intense electromagnetic pulse, the real facts remain elusive. 222 00:27:57,677 --> 00:28:04,677 But four years later, a similar and even more dramatic UFO dogfight occurs over Peru. 223 00:28:04,677 --> 00:28:09,677 But this time, the pilot was able to attack. 224 00:28:10,677 --> 00:28:22,677 On February 18, 2008, Oscar Santa Maria arrives at Los Angeles International Airport from Lima, Peru. 225 00:28:22,677 --> 00:28:35,677 Santa Maria is in Los Angeles to work with the UFO hunters to help prove the facts and events around his extraordinary case of a UFO dogfight over Peru in 1980. 226 00:28:35,677 --> 00:28:45,677 I am Oscar Santa Maria Huertas, a pilot for the Peruvian Air Force, right now in retirement. 227 00:28:47,677 --> 00:29:03,677 On April 11, 1980, at 7.15 in the morning, at the airbase of La Jolla in Peru, 228 00:29:03,677 --> 00:29:14,677 1,800 military people in charge that day, they observed at the end of the runway an object that looked like a balloon 229 00:29:15,677 --> 00:29:24,676 that didn't have authorization to fly in the area, and they thought it was an spy. 230 00:29:25,676 --> 00:29:33,676 A commander gave him the order to take off and destroy the object right away. 231 00:29:34,676 --> 00:29:40,676 Santa Maria fires 64 rounds from his 30mm cannon directly at the object. 232 00:29:40,676 --> 00:29:50,676 But to his amazement, the bullet seemed to pass right through the object and would have clearly destroyed anything in their path, including a weather balloon. 233 00:29:50,676 --> 00:30:01,676 He was expecting the object to explode, but it didn't happen and the object started to send it. 234 00:30:02,676 --> 00:30:06,676 He proceeded to go after the object. 235 00:30:07,676 --> 00:30:12,676 Santa Maria pursues and notices the unidentified object is doing something else. 236 00:30:13,676 --> 00:30:20,676 Every time he gets within range, the object climbs, executing maneuvers worthy of top gun. 237 00:30:21,676 --> 00:30:29,676 However, the most harrowing part of his story is yet to come, and it involves the U.S. military. 238 00:30:32,676 --> 00:30:38,676 I just recently met Oscar Santa Maria and I listened to his story, and I have to wonder, 239 00:30:38,676 --> 00:30:45,676 why would this military commander come out with this UFO story unless he was really really affected by this experience? 240 00:30:45,676 --> 00:30:49,676 I believe he saw something that really shook him and that stayed with him to this day. 241 00:30:51,676 --> 00:30:59,676 Due to the complexity and shocking nature of this event, Oscar Santa Maria has always encountered skeptics who simply cannot believe 242 00:30:59,676 --> 00:31:08,676 that both he and this object made such extraordinary maneuvers during his dogfight with what he thinks was a real UFO. 243 00:31:09,676 --> 00:31:18,676 The team wants to determine if the Santa Maria UFO had maneuvering capabilities that were greater than anything that existed at the time. 244 00:31:19,676 --> 00:31:26,676 Since they don't have access to a Sequoy 22 jet, they will use the next best thing available. 245 00:31:27,676 --> 00:31:32,676 They return to Air Combat USA to take this case to the sky. 246 00:31:33,676 --> 00:31:39,676 The team has identified three key elements of this case that they want to test and demonstrate. 247 00:31:40,676 --> 00:31:49,676 The fact that Santa Maria locked onto and fired at the UFO with no effect is incredibly impressive to the team, but difficult to test. 248 00:31:49,676 --> 00:31:55,676 However, two key aerial maneuvers can be analyzed with some accuracy in the air. 249 00:31:57,676 --> 00:32:01,676 First, the UFO came to a dead stop in midair. 250 00:32:02,676 --> 00:32:08,676 Second, from this dead stop, the UFO began a steep fast climb. 251 00:32:09,676 --> 00:32:14,676 In order to give the team an accurate depiction of the events of that night, 252 00:32:14,676 --> 00:32:24,676 Experiments producer John Tyndall has devised a laser tracking tool with two lasers, one red, one green, both controlled by joysticks. 253 00:32:25,676 --> 00:32:29,676 The green laser represents the flight path of the UFO. 254 00:32:29,676 --> 00:32:32,676 The red laser represents the flight path of the jet. 255 00:32:33,676 --> 00:32:37,676 Together, they give a scale representation of the event. 256 00:32:39,676 --> 00:32:55,675 What I have here is a top-down view using these laser pointers as a scale model of the movement of any of these UFOs in the aircraft. 257 00:32:55,675 --> 00:33:01,675 I can scale the movement to match the speed of the scale on the map. 258 00:33:01,675 --> 00:33:03,675 Where was your airfield? 259 00:33:04,675 --> 00:33:12,675 The red laser is indicating your aircraft and that is traveling at around a thousand miles an hour. 260 00:33:12,675 --> 00:33:18,675 Santa Maria, using the red laser, shows his position at the point of the first attack. 261 00:33:18,675 --> 00:33:22,675 He got closer to the 900-meter firing position. 262 00:33:22,675 --> 00:33:26,675 He fired 64 rounds. 263 00:33:26,675 --> 00:33:31,675 He knows that he hit the object but nothing happened, it exploded. 264 00:33:31,675 --> 00:33:35,675 The object started moving away at a fast pace. 265 00:33:35,675 --> 00:33:40,675 Yes, as he moved away, he climbed at the same time. 266 00:33:40,675 --> 00:33:47,675 The object stopped all of a sudden, he almost hit it, so he went around his right to take a firing position. 267 00:33:47,675 --> 00:33:51,675 As he was getting close to the 900-meter range, he activated the post-conveyor. 268 00:33:51,675 --> 00:33:52,675 Is he after burn? 269 00:33:52,675 --> 00:33:53,675 After burn and post-conveyor. 270 00:33:53,675 --> 00:33:57,675 Yes, all of a sudden, the object climbed once again. 271 00:33:57,675 --> 00:34:06,675 The most amazing part of this story is that once he goes to after burners, the UFO makes an evasive move straight up. 272 00:34:06,675 --> 00:34:14,675 And Santa Maria yanks back and starts to fly up as well, now traveling at over 1,000 miles per hour. 273 00:34:14,675 --> 00:34:18,675 But incredibly, the UFO stops in mid-air. 274 00:34:18,675 --> 00:34:26,675 And after he passes, the UFO follows him, accelerating from a dead stop. 275 00:34:26,675 --> 00:34:29,675 An impossible maneuver. 276 00:34:29,675 --> 00:34:35,675 So he was doing the supersonic speed and he passed the object, the object then started climbing next to him. 277 00:34:35,675 --> 00:34:38,675 They're both climbing roughly vertically, then what? 278 00:34:38,675 --> 00:34:43,675 At 19,000 meters, he couldn't climb no more and he was practically floating. 279 00:34:43,675 --> 00:34:52,675 At 19,000 meters, just over 62,000 feet, Santa Maria began to lose control of his plane. 280 00:34:52,675 --> 00:35:00,675 The Su-22 has a ceiling of 60,000 feet and could no longer operate at this altitude. 281 00:35:00,675 --> 00:35:05,675 Without a capacity to attack one last time, he started getting back to the base. 282 00:35:05,675 --> 00:35:17,675 After briefing the pilots on his specific flight plan and maneuvers, Baron, Joker, Ted and Bill Scott prepare for takeoff to demonstrate the details of this strange engagement. 283 00:35:22,675 --> 00:35:40,675 Music 284 00:35:40,675 --> 00:35:48,675 I gotta keep your eyes peeled out here. It's not exclusively ours, the airspace. 285 00:35:48,675 --> 00:35:52,675 Now, the UFO hunters have fighters in the air. 286 00:35:52,675 --> 00:35:55,675 Come in for the attack. Gun, gun, gun. 287 00:35:55,675 --> 00:35:59,675 And are looking to prove this case once and for all. 288 00:35:59,675 --> 00:36:07,675 Like the Jafari event, Oscar Santa Maria's case was discovered by the Department of Defense and Joint Chiefs of Staff, 289 00:36:07,675 --> 00:36:15,674 and a full report was issued, which landed on some of the most powerful desks in Washington, D.C. 290 00:36:15,674 --> 00:36:20,674 Music 291 00:36:20,674 --> 00:36:33,674 Pilots have just taken off in two fighter planes to help recreate and prove Oscar Santa Maria's reported UFO dogfight encounter over Peru in 1980. 292 00:36:33,674 --> 00:36:40,674 The pilots are now approximately seven minutes away from their dogfight location. 293 00:36:40,674 --> 00:36:45,674 I gotta keep your eyes peeled out here. It's not exclusively ours, the airspace. 294 00:36:45,674 --> 00:36:57,674 Recently declassified military documents show that a detailed report was actually made about this event, much to Santa Maria's surprise. 295 00:36:57,674 --> 00:37:09,674 After your flight, the American Department of Defense just had your whole statement in a Defense Department report, and I'm wondering, how do you think they got it? 296 00:37:09,674 --> 00:37:14,674 The intelligence community between the states exchange information. 297 00:37:14,674 --> 00:37:15,674 Oh, really? 298 00:37:15,674 --> 00:37:22,674 It's a close community between countries and the air forces, so they communicate with each other and they let each other know. 299 00:37:22,674 --> 00:37:29,674 While the U.S. government stopped investigating UFOs with the closure of Project Gloobook in 1970, 300 00:37:29,674 --> 00:37:36,674 this Santa Maria report, released by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, shows something else. 301 00:37:36,674 --> 00:37:40,674 It is presented here for the first time on television. 302 00:37:40,674 --> 00:37:48,674 This document was distributed to the Secretary of Defense, Secretary of State, the NSA, and the CIA. 303 00:37:48,674 --> 00:37:53,674 The title of the document is, quote, UFO, cited in Peru. 304 00:37:53,674 --> 00:38:01,674 The document clearly states, quote, source is officer in the Peruvian Air Force who observed the event. 305 00:38:01,674 --> 00:38:08,674 The source reported, quote, a UFO was spotted near a Peruvian Air Force base in southern Peru, 306 00:38:08,674 --> 00:38:14,674 and the FAP tried to intercept and destroy the UFO, but without success. 307 00:38:14,674 --> 00:38:20,674 This event reached the highest levels of the United States Department of Defense, 308 00:38:20,674 --> 00:38:27,674 and remember, Peru was not an American client at the time, it was a Soviet client, if only to work. 309 00:38:27,674 --> 00:38:31,674 So it reached the highest levels of our defense department, how? 310 00:38:33,674 --> 00:38:38,674 Oscar Santa Maria first received a copy of this document in 2001, 311 00:38:38,674 --> 00:38:44,674 when the Peruvian Air Force opened up the country's first official UFO investigation. 312 00:38:44,674 --> 00:38:55,674 After studying dozens of cases, the Peruvian Air Force found this to be the most credible, unresolved UFO case in the country's history. 313 00:38:55,674 --> 00:39:01,674 There is no word on what the official U.S. government's response was to this document. 314 00:39:04,674 --> 00:39:06,674 We're in the area, we're ready. 315 00:39:06,674 --> 00:39:08,674 At Doka U.S. Police. 316 00:39:08,674 --> 00:39:14,674 The fighter planes have reached their location. The dogfight is about to begin. 317 00:39:14,674 --> 00:39:21,674 Former U.S. Air Force Flight Test Engineer Bill Scott sits in the Oscar Santa Maria plane, 318 00:39:21,674 --> 00:39:28,674 and UFO Hunter Ted Ackworth will be in the UFO plane, attempting to maneuver like the UFO. 319 00:39:28,674 --> 00:39:38,674 Just like Santa Maria, they line up in firing position. Santa Maria said he fired on the UFO with no effect. 320 00:39:38,674 --> 00:39:46,673 Next, Santa Maria said the UFO came to a complete stop. It's something no known plane can do, 321 00:39:46,673 --> 00:39:50,673 because the incredible G-forces would kill the pilot. 322 00:39:50,673 --> 00:39:55,673 Guns, guns, guns, we're going. Ready, ready. Here comes the break. 323 00:39:57,673 --> 00:40:06,673 As the UFO plane hits the brakes, the Santa Maria plane flies right by, having to bank in order to avoid collision. 324 00:40:06,673 --> 00:40:14,673 Even in this prop plane, the G-forces of slowing down so much have a rough effect on the cameraman in the chase plane. 325 00:40:15,673 --> 00:40:19,673 Camera guy's puking, trying to do his business with the bag. 326 00:40:19,673 --> 00:40:23,673 The team repeats this maneuver three times. 327 00:40:29,673 --> 00:40:34,673 In the most harrowing maneuver possibly ever attempted by a Peruvian Air Force pilot, 328 00:40:34,673 --> 00:40:42,673 Santa Maria reached the operating ceiling of his aircraft, 62,000 feet, while being pursued by the UFO. 329 00:40:42,673 --> 00:40:45,673 His life was on the line. 330 00:41:03,673 --> 00:41:07,673 Joker, in the Santa Maria plane, swoops down from above. 331 00:41:07,673 --> 00:41:14,673 The UFO evades, and Joker dives into a J pattern, climbing to nearly vertical. 332 00:41:14,673 --> 00:41:19,673 The UFO follows behind, attempting to climb vertically as well. 333 00:41:26,673 --> 00:41:33,673 What they have just shown is that there is no way a man-made craft could accelerate from a standstill 334 00:41:33,673 --> 00:41:38,673 to over 1,000 miles per hour at that altitude in an instant. 335 00:41:38,673 --> 00:41:45,673 It further shows that one of the world's best fighter jets at the time could have never caught up to it. 336 00:41:45,673 --> 00:41:50,673 Camera guy's puking, trying to do his business with the bag. 337 00:42:16,673 --> 00:42:20,673 Sounded like the UFO was just playing with him. 338 00:42:20,673 --> 00:42:26,673 Being inside the aircraft and attempting to copy or mimic those maneuvers, 339 00:42:26,673 --> 00:42:33,673 you just realize there's no way any man-made vehicle could have performed those maneuvers that the UFO did. 340 00:42:33,673 --> 00:42:39,673 Either the colonel is lying, or we had some sort of object that is totally not man-made, 341 00:42:39,673 --> 00:42:45,673 but exceeded all known flight performance characteristics of anything that we have, trustingly. 342 00:42:47,673 --> 00:42:52,673 The team reconvenes in the map room to discuss the results of their test flights. 343 00:42:52,673 --> 00:42:56,673 The planes we just flew, there's no way they can climb vertically. 344 00:42:56,673 --> 00:42:59,673 And is there a need for a standing start to that speed? 345 00:42:59,673 --> 00:43:04,673 How many planes are there out there that could climb supersonically vertically? 346 00:43:04,673 --> 00:43:08,673 There's a lot of them that can't, anything with a better than one-to-one thrust ratio. 347 00:43:08,673 --> 00:43:12,672 However, you don't start from a dead start, you have to get a run like he did. 348 00:43:12,672 --> 00:43:15,672 It's the speed and the maneuverability. 349 00:43:15,672 --> 00:43:21,672 When you hear the story of this thing stops, goes vertical, goes to more than supersonic instantly. 350 00:43:21,672 --> 00:43:26,672 Nothing we can do, nothing we can do to match that. 351 00:43:26,672 --> 00:43:33,672 To actually engage a UFO for a period of 20 minutes, that's something extraordinary. 352 00:43:33,672 --> 00:43:37,672 You know, you might see something for a moment or two and not be able to identify it, 353 00:43:37,672 --> 00:43:43,672 but be able to engage it for 20, 22 minutes, that's a totally credible situation. 354 00:43:45,672 --> 00:43:52,672 Two cases, two credible pilots, two sets of official military unclassified documents 355 00:43:52,672 --> 00:43:57,672 that show these cases went to the highest level of the government. 356 00:43:57,672 --> 00:44:04,672 And what about the other cases of UFO dogfights that have not yet been reported? 357 00:44:04,672 --> 00:44:12,672 Two pilots in two different parts of the world have engaged objects with extraordinary maneuverability, 358 00:44:12,672 --> 00:44:14,672 but it's not clear what. 359 00:44:14,672 --> 00:44:17,672 The team's work continues.